There is a lot of talk about getting back to normal after the COVID-19 crisis is over. Yet normal the ‘business as usual’ nature of our people is what has made our planet and our societies vulnerable to crisis in the first place. Stronger and smarter means embarking on a journey where we create the conditions for nature to take care of us. But do we continue to practice physical distancing and social connecting? To help us understand this topic we invited Dr. Wendel Abel who is a psychiatrist and Dr. Debbie- Ann Chambers who is a Consulting Psychologist. Click here to watch this intriguing discussion.